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OPINION — “An important half proper now could be that Europe would have the ability to purchase army tools right here within the U.S. so we are able to donate these army methods on to Ukraine. That can also be dialogue occurring proper now. I believe [President] Trump is on the fitting path right here. I believe he has promised that might be a risk. We’re speaking in these hours about 10 Patriot [missile defense] methods and I believe the result of that dialogue will likely be that European nations will have the ability to purchase the Patriot methods after which donate them on to Ukraine and that is necessary as a result of the discussions two months in the past have been, the truth is, that there have been no extra to purchase right here within the U.S. So the result of the dialogue proper now could be shifting in a greater course.”

That was Denmark’s Protection Minister Troels Lund Poulsen, talking one week in the past on the Heart for Strategic and Worldwide Research (CSIS), the place he appeared together with Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Denmark’s Minister of International Affairs. They mentioned not simply Ukraine and NATO, but additionally their relations with the U.S., Greenland, the important minerals problem and Denmark’s targets in taking on the Presidency of the European Union (EU) for the following six months.


The 2 had been in Washington for a number of days of assembly with senior Trump officers, and Members of Congress, partially as a result of Denmark has assumed the Presidency of the European Union and plans to make army preparedness a trademark of the nation’s six month management time period.

Final Tuesday, Poulsen defined the reasoning for European nations to purchase weapons from the U.S. for Ukraine, which Trump and NATO Secretary Basic Mark Rutte introduced on the White Home yesterday. He and Rasmussen additionally defined the background of the European nations’ decision-making in addition to their views of actions right here in Washington and the remainder of the world.

International Minister Rasmussen gave his personal evaluation of the scenario in Moscow, saying, “You should not overestimate the ability of Russia. I imply we now have weakened the [Russian] financial system. They’re now on a battle footing so to talk. They spend extra on army than in well being and schooling and every thing civilized mixed. They’ve big casualties, excessive inflation. I imply if it was a extra open clear society with some sort of inner discussions, issues would have been very, very, completely different. When you examine the casualties with what they misplaced in Afghanistan and determined to withdraw, it is a lot worse.”

A former two-time Danish Prime Minister, Rasmussen continued, “However after all it is a closed society and it’s a one-man-takes-all-decisions-kind-of-society. It is not a democracy, however it’s inside our palms, so to talk, to really crash Putin and his battle machine.”

Rasmussen then added, “The massive query is whether or not we [Denmark and the other NATO and EU countries] have, , the readiness, the willingness to take action, and right here after all we want the U.S. I imply it goes with out saying that Europe has to pay an even bigger a part of the invoice. We do. We [Europe] now account for like 70% of the entire assist to Ukraine. That quantity will go up, however we want the U.S. on board as effectively, not least after we are speaking sanctions and stress on Putin.”

As Rasmussen identified, tiny Denmark provides fairly a bit by itself. “We’re the fourth largest contributor to Ukraine,” he stated, “so it is like U.S., U.Okay. [United Kingdom], Germany, after which Denmark. Per capita, we’re thus far the largest. We spend like plus 1,500 Euros [$1,754] per capita in Denmark. It is greater than the double in comparison with the second largest spender in Europe.”

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As for U.S. arms, “We want extra pace in our procurements from the U.S.,” Poulsen stated. “It’s too lengthy to get the wanted capabilities and proper now we’re certainly in want for these capabilities. In order that’s my important goal to be right here [in Washington].”

Poulsen added, “Trump is kind of a lot conscious of that. And likewise [Defense Secretary] Pete Hegseth and [Secretary of State] Mario Rubio [both of whom they had met with]. They’re conscious that they’ve to hurry up all these processes — an excessive amount of pink tape in delivering to Europe. And after we are coming to U.S. saying we wish to purchase much more army tools, then I do not suppose the reply ought to be it’s a must to wait seven or eight years to get it.”

Poulsen additionally stated, “Europe will do extra and I believe the result of the scenario in Ukraine can also be the demanding query for Europe to have the ability to make investments extra and likewise construct up extra [military] capability,” which he described as among the many “classes discovered from Ukraine.”

At one level Rasmussen stated he had met briefly with Trump throughout the June NATO assembly at The Hague. “I advised him after we met final time once I was prime minister, we solely spent like 1.5 p.c [of the nation’s GDP] in Denmark [for our defense spending]…Then the entire thing occurred in Ukraine. Now there’s completely new sense of urgency. This 12 months Denmark spends 3.2 p.c, precisely the identical as U.S. It’s a clear dedication from our authorities that we are going to meet the three.5 p.c [NATO goal by 2035].”

Ukraine has proven itself to be very robust in creating new and revolutionary protection firms, they each stated, however funding in arms manufacturing outdoors Ukraine is what they talked about. Rasmussen stated, “Mainly it is about shopping for from Ukraine to Ukraine.”

He described that when the battle began Ukraine had a weapons business of some $3 billion, however it’s now as much as $40 billion, though Ukrainians “solely have finance for half of it.”

Rasmussen stated a solution has been that “we [the Danes] have spent our personal cash and we even have the respect to be the facilitator of a few of these [Russian] frozen property or the curiosity linked to the frozen asset. So that’s the foundation of the Danish mannequin and now we’re engaged on making, , actual investments…with our Ukrainian pals to arrange Ukrainian investments in Denmark to offer them some sort of secure haven.”

Different European nations have adopted, and along with the Ukrainians they’re producing arms not only for Ukraine, however for their very own militaries. “We ought to be impressed of what the Ukrainians lesson discovered from their battlefield,” Rasmussen stated, “and that is why it is sensible additionally to speculate not solely to help them [Ukrainians], but additionally to make some sort of know-how transferring from Ukraine to our personal army.”

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Poulsen stated the primary pilot venture was final July, when Denmark paid for 18 Bohdana self-propelled 155 mm howitzers that Ukraine had created by itself. “They have been produced in two months,” Poulsen stated. “Ought to we now have been capable of purchase them in Europe, it can have taken two years. So in two months they have been capable of produce the Bohdana methods. It was very low cost and the spare elements, the upkeep, all that sort of factor are, after all, being accomplished instantly close to the entrance line. So it has been an enormous success and proper now we’re trying into additionally creating new capabilities or finance new capabilities for the protection firms in Ukraine. That might be missiles, that might be drones. It is underneath Ukrainian protection calls for that they ask for this and we reimburse [pay for] the contracts.”

With some $20 billion from Europeans and others accessible, Poulsen defined, “one of the best ways we are able to do for our pals in Ukraine to maintain up combating is the truth is to offer cash instantly into the [Ukraine] protection firms.”

Poulsen known as it Danish mannequin 2.0. and stated, “That is to ask a few of the [Ukraine] protection firms to have a secure haven in Denmark to provide what they may want in Ukraine, hopefully all additionally in Germany and different European nations.”

Poulsen additionally described a brand new method involving Denmark, Germany and Nordic nations — collectively shopping for weapons methods.

For example, Poulsen stated that Denmark, Norway and Sweden are trying into shopping for the P-8A Poseidon U.S. Navy multi-mission maritime patrol and reconnaissance plane. He stated it was a functionality they have already got in Norway and Germany, however “not shopping for it ourselves [individually]…we’ll even have some capabilities that we might use along with Sweden and Norway…In order that would be the approach ahead.”

As for Greenland, Rasmussen stated he didn’t actually focus on the matter in any depth when he met with Rubio as a result of “we [the Danes] have the slogan ‘nothing about Greenland with out Greenland [being present].’ Though the overseas safety coverage [of Greenland] is, , the Danish authorities’s duty, we now have developed custom or customized that if we’re, , actually negotiating with the third nations about these points we may have our Greenlandic colleague [with us].”

Greenland, he stated, was mentioned “in a extra typically approach.”

Rasmussen stated the Danes have been “taken unexpectedly” by Trump’s announcement that for each U.S. nationwide safety and worldwide safety it was vital that Washington annex Greenland.

Rasmussen, who was Danish Prime Minister from 2016-to-2019 throughout Trump’s first time period, stated, “I’ve skilled with Trump so many instances that no matter he says…and no matter he proposes there’s all the time some sort of rational substance behind it. I imply, and we share the view, that we now have to be current within the Arctic differently. But it surely should not be in a struggle between the dominion of Denmark and U.S. It ought to be by combining forces and we now have the framework for that.”

He defined that the Danes “have been pushing for together with [the] Arctic within the functionality targets in NATO. And, to some extent, we have been profitable. There’s now a sort of principal settlement among the many NATO Arctic nations, together with U.S., that that is one thing we must always do underneath the framework of the NATO.”

Rasmussen added, “So it is not that the Greenlandic problem is solved. I believe as a result of other than these rational arguments, I am unable to eliminate the concept there’s additionally simply this [Trump] imaginative and prescient of making an even bigger U.S. and we are able to, after all, not accommodate that.”

Rasmussen added, “I have to say I depart Washington a bit extra optimistic in comparison with once I arrived. I believe the assertion made by the president [Trump] after his [most recent] phone conversations with [Russian President] Putin and [Ukraine President] Zelensky show that he now to a bigger extent share our evaluation of the scenario. I imply it was a bit complicated earlier this 12 months when he had Zelensky within the Oval Workplace who’s the dangerous man, who’s the nice man. That has shifted. I believe the [Hague] NATO summit was additionally necessary. I imply I actually really feel and suppose he [Trump] has maybe essentially the most constructive view on Europe he has had for some time, a minimum of.”

All that has turned out to have been life like. Let’s hope Trump stays on his present trajectory.

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